A new way to deal with spammers ;) #694

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opened 2023-11-10 12:35:12 +01:00 by Ghost · 1 comment

Ghost commented

2023-11-10 12:35:12 +01:00

Now comes the most important aspect of email, ie, SPAM. Spammers seem to get more sophisticated with the passage of time. It's about time that we make the lives of spammers more miserable. A well known German Email Provider named "Posteo" has come up with a very unique way of handling SPAM. According to them they have introduced an "Optional Spam Folder" which functions in 3 ways:

(1) If a user disables the Spam folder, then all spam messages are rejected by default.

(2) If a user enables the Spam folder, then all spam messages land up in the Spam folder.

However there's a unique "Third Option" known as "Spam Log". If a user selects this option, all SPAM messages will be rejected similar to option 1, however the user will be notified that an email message sent from Mr ABC has been rejected.

Posteo has introduced this unique approach last month. Here is a link to their blog post:

https://posteo.de/en/blog/new-at-posteo-optional-spam-folder-and-spam-log

It would be very welcoming if disroot offers us users something like this. With this approach the end users will have more options to deal with spammers and spammers will have a hard time sending spam messages to us. I felt that it was time to deal with spammers for good.

Regards

First of all, i would like to thank the disroot team for offering us an alternative to the likes of "GAFAM". Roundcube webmail was the best decision taken by disroot team ever since the vulnerability of rainloop was discovered. I thank you on behalf of every disrooter. Now comes the most important aspect of email, ie, SPAM. Spammers seem to get more sophisticated with the passage of time. It's about time that we make the lives of spammers more miserable. A well known German Email Provider named "Posteo" has come up with a very unique way of handling SPAM. According to them they have introduced an "Optional Spam Folder" which functions in 3 ways: (1) If a user disables the Spam folder, then all spam messages are rejected by default. (2) If a user enables the Spam folder, then all spam messages land up in the Spam folder. However there's a unique "Third Option" known as "Spam Log". If a user selects this option, all SPAM messages will be rejected similar to option 1, however the user will be notified that an email message sent from Mr ABC has been rejected. Posteo has introduced this unique approach last month. Here is a link to their blog post: https://posteo.de/en/blog/new-at-posteo-optional-spam-folder-and-spam-log It would be very welcoming if disroot offers us users something like this. With this approach the end users will have more options to deal with spammers and spammers will have a hard time sending spam messages to us. I felt that it was time to deal with spammers for good. Regards

muppeth commented

2023-11-10 21:46:00 +01:00

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Thanks for the link I will check it out more in detail. What we have enabled now is roundcube's "Mark As Junk" plugin. In short, while on webmail when you mark email as Spam, it will be forwarded to spam.report@disroot.org address. Similarly for ham, it will be forwarded to ham.report@disroot.org. Periodically we sieve through those mailboxes to make sure no false-positive are in 'em and use the content to teach spamassassin to better estimate what is spam and what is not. It's not 100% live system yet (the part of teaching the spamassassin is still not operational but it's a matter of few days I guess). Additionally to that, email mark as spam lands by default in user's Junk folder. This is also new feature and we will announce it over the weekend in upcomming newsletter.
I will check the proposed idea from posteo though too.

Thanks for the link I will check it out more in detail. What we have enabled now is roundcube's "Mark As Junk" plugin. In short, while on webmail when you mark email as Spam, it will be forwarded to spam.report@disroot.org address. Similarly for ham, it will be forwarded to ham.report@disroot.org. Periodically we sieve through those mailboxes to make sure no false-positive are in 'em and use the content to teach spamassassin to better estimate what is spam and what is not. It's not 100% live system yet (the part of teaching the spamassassin is still not operational but it's a matter of few days I guess). Additionally to that, email mark as spam lands by default in user's Junk folder. This is also new feature and we will announce it over the weekend in upcomming newsletter. I will check the proposed idea from posteo though too.

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