Bonfire, a potential alternative to Akkoma ? #754
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Hello, a new upcoming federated service named "Bonfire" seems to be in active development and is near to an official launch this year. The admins claim that it would soon offer all the features that Akkoma and others out there seem to lack. They also claim it to be very privacy respecting and many new features are either planned or in the pipeline. There's a lot of positive feedback from the community who are using the beta release. Can you please have a look at it. It might be better than Akkoma in the near term.
Here is the link to their official website:
https://bonfirenetworks.org/
https://bonfirenetworks.org/docs/
https://github.com/bonfire-networks/bonfire-app
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Hi there. We have been testing it back when we were choosing which ActivityPub service will be replacing Hubzilla. It was not yet production ready and so we went for pleroma and later moved to akkoma (fork of pleroma). It's good to keep it in the back of our mind and keep revisiting it though so thanks for reminding.
The problem with constantly moving to the 'new and shiny' is the fact users will not be willing to invest time and effort into theit accounts if at any time they can be wiped out and replaced with new service. But it's good to keep eyes open, so yeah I guess I will be taking a look. Thanks 😸
It did change quite a lot and resembles more hubzilla's features.
I get the feeling that it could be similar to a Hubzilla experience followed up with the thoughtm "don't fix what isn't broken."
I agree that users might face a bit of an inconvenience when switching to a new account, but in the long run everyone will be happy to jump ship. In my opinion Bonfire developers are more open to suggestions and they value privacy a lot. The developers want Bonfire to offer all the functionality offered by friendica, mobilizon, pixelfed, mastodon combined, This might be the new Hubzilla which failed to gain traction. A very interesting time ahead. Let's see how the project takes off. Fingers crossed.
@zeeshan Yes. Perhaps when we have a little bit of breathing time (for next two months we have quite some things to get done), we could deploy a test instance and check with the community at large which one (akkoma or bonfire) they would prefer.
I certainly wouldn't mind doing a little user testing. :)
@muppeth Akkoma development is slowing down. There has not been a new release for more than 6 months. Although this could be due to a variety of reasons but i am afraid that Akkoma might be heading in the direction of becoming abandoned similar to what has happened with Firefish (Fork of Misskey) recently.
https://akkoma.dev/AkkomaGang/akkoma/releases
Last release was in August 2023.
@zeeshan Sure. I do follow this and like I said I do think bonfire might be better solution. And been looing/thinking about this as well but there is few factors to take in consideration. Mainly having to move users yet again. This might not be big deal on first glance, but might be showing wrong signal that our fediverse instance is not stable to use it as a home for fedi identity. This is something I fear and something that we need to really think through.
So yeah I agree bonfire is looking really good, and it were for me only, I would move, but we need to think about it in broad picture.
Perhaps one argument would be that moving to bonfire would actually bring people over and it is something to consider. Definitely something to bring to the table. I will def. bring it to the team to discuss a bit internally and for sure bring it over on next meeting. Once we have some initial idea/opinion we could bring it over to the current akkoma users to see if they would mind or not. I hope you will also take active part in the process :D.
My initial opinion...
Looks interesting, but, I'm sorry, don't we already have enough with the "social" services we provide? Akkoma is doing very well and I see there's still people working on it. 6 months with no new releases doesn't mean it will be "abandoned".
I, myself, am very happy with Akkoma. It's simple, easy to use. I'm very comfortable with it. If the frontend were to change, I would just adapt; I don't believe it would be all that difficult. But, I don't think it would be that great of a decision to change it up unless there was a necessity that Akkoima doesn't account for some other show-stopping mitigation of something is needed.
Everyone will say great things about themselves (and they should). But, I'm the type that would appreciate independent stats, also. It doesn't mean to go out and find them, of course, it would only apply to myself, mainly. Maybe for others, also, but I can only speak of myself.
I'm not sure I would go for something new now. I mean, as muppeth said, we already changed not so long ago. But I'm not a huge users of those social media stuff, so perhaps my opinion is not important regarding that matter :) With my tiny use of social medias, Akkoma meets my needs.