improve clearify "commercial activities"

avg_joe commented

2022-12-11 20:46:38 +01:00

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Using Disroot services for commercial activities

Disroot is a non-profit organization providing services for individuals on "pay as you wish" basis. Because of this structure we see using Disroot services for commercial purposes as an abuse of the service and it will be treated as such.

These commercial activities or purposes include, but are not limited to:

1. 	Trading any Disroot services with a third party.
	This is prohibited.
2.	Using email for purposes such as "no-reply" type of accounts 
	for a business.
	If such activity is detected, the account will be blocked 
    	without a warning.
3.	Sending bulk emails, including but not limited to marketing 
	and advertising, for business purposes.
	The account will be treated as spam and blocked upon discovery 
    	without any prior notice.
4.	Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to
	trading or managing sales,*exceeding private flea market*, 
    	is not tolerated.
5.	Accounts created *solely* for the purpose of generating profits 
	will be subject to termination upon inquiry.

As much as we discourage using Disroot for commercial activities, we also understand that some financial activities can be part of your personal life, hobbies and passions.

As a rule of thumb, you should contact us, if your commercial use exceeds your personal use, or if you have any doubts and questions about the scope of the term "commercial activities".

Using Disroot services for commercial activity will be examined per case and the decision on terminating such accounts will be based upon communication with the account holder and the type of the activities in question.

8. Using Disroot services for commercial activities Disroot is a non-profit organization providing services for individuals on "pay as you wish" basis. Because of this structure we see using Disroot services for commercial purposes as an abuse of the service and it will be treated as such. These commercial activities or purposes include, but are not limited to: 1. Trading any Disroot services with a third party. This is prohibited. 2. Using email for purposes such as "no-reply" type of accounts for a business. If such activity is detected, the account will be blocked without a warning. 3. Sending bulk emails, including but not limited to marketing and advertising, for business purposes. The account will be treated as spam and blocked upon discovery without any prior notice. 4. Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales,*exceeding private flea market*, is not tolerated. 5. Accounts created *solely* for the purpose of generating profits will be subject to termination upon inquiry. *As much as we discourage using Disroot for commercial activities, we also understand that some financial activities can be part of your personal life, hobbies and passions.* *As a rule of thumb, you should contact us, if your commercial use exceeds your personal use, or if you have any doubts and questions about the scope of the term "commercial activities".* Using Disroot services for commercial activity will be examined per case and the decision on terminating such accounts will be based upon communication with the account holder and the type of the activities in question.

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meaz commented

2022-12-12 14:16:32 +01:00

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It looks fine with me, as I find that really clear.

avg_joe commented

2022-12-12 17:24:51 +01:00

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not sure about if the solely addition. that could lead to discussions.

not sure about if the *solely* addition. that could lead to discussions.

muppeth commented

2022-12-12 21:48:08 +01:00

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perhaps adding some examples or something could make it more clear and prevent discussions.

antilopa commented

2022-12-14 09:13:06 +01:00

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@avg_joe I agree with removing 'solely', the sentence works fine without it. I also find this wording unclear: exceeding private flea market

@muppeth examples might help but might also make it to specific, so something to watchout for.

@avg_joe I agree with removing 'solely', the sentence works fine without it. I also find this wording unclear: *exceeding private flea market* @muppeth examples might help but might also make it to specific, so something to watchout for.

avg_joe commented

2022-12-14 13:38:09 +01:00

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@antilopa what's unclear with the private flea market from your pov? current clause states that managing any sales is prohibited, so i wanted to differentiate private sales. that's why i added as well the solely thingy to prohibite accounts solely created to do that kind of stuff.

meaz commented

2023-01-15 18:37:24 +01:00

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should we implement this?

antilopa commented

2023-01-17 10:04:33 +01:00

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@avg_joe to me the wording 'exceeding private flea market' sounds like a made up termp subject to interpertation. I just didn't understand exactly what it means, or when a 'private flea market' become 'exceeding', so I assume more people won't. I guess you meant the same as saying:

Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to
trading or managing sales - either commercial or private - is not tolerated.

Would you agree with this?

@avg_joe to me the wording 'exceeding private flea market' sounds like a made up termp subject to interpertation. I just didn't understand exactly what it means, or when a 'private flea market' become 'exceeding', so I assume more people won't. I guess you meant the same as saying: 4. Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales - either commercial or private - is not tolerated. Would you agree with this?

avg_joe commented

2023-01-17 12:11:38 +01:00

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@antilopa why do we want to prohibit private sales?

antilopa commented

2023-01-17 13:04:36 +01:00

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Ok, than I guess I still don't understand what private flea market means.

meaz commented

2023-01-17 15:04:57 +01:00

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Here is how I understand it:

4.	Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales, is not tolerated, if it exceeds "family market" (for example selling your old laptop on second hand market is fine).

but it probably needs a better wording!

Here is how I understand it: ``` 4. Using Disroot services for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales, is not tolerated, if it exceeds "family market" (for example selling your old laptop on second hand market is fine). ``` but it probably needs a better wording!

antilopa commented

2023-01-17 16:01:06 +01:00

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ahhh, only now I understand what @avg_joe meant. I think. I read 'exceeding private flea market' as one term while the idea was the 'private flea market' is oke but exceeding that isn't.. right?

However, I would remove that part fully, as it opens too many loopholes and doesn't make it clear. I'd rather say something like

4. Accounts primarily used for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales, are not tolerated.

If someone every now and than sell second hand items or send a freelance invoice from their personal mail, that is not a primary use. Yet it is clear you shouldn't open an account especially for the purpose of selling second hand items. We could always add 'if you have doubts contact support'.

ahhh, only now I understand what @avg_joe meant. I think. I read 'exceeding private flea market' as one term while the idea was the 'private flea market' is oke but exceeding that isn't.. right? However, I would remove that part fully, as it opens too many loopholes and doesn't make it clear. I'd rather say something like > `4. Accounts primarily used for financial gain, including but not limited to trading or managing sales, are not tolerated.` If someone every now and than sell second hand items or send a freelance invoice from their personal mail, that is not a primary use. Yet it is clear you shouldn't open an account especially for the purpose of selling second hand items. We could always add 'if you have doubts contact support'.

avg_joe commented

2023-01-17 18:12:24 +01:00

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@antilopa