From eeb87c2ec964f33dccef0b604b7dd6c1f78a49c1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: GitHub Action Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 00:32:55 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] up archive/github/issues/ --- .../issues/md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md | 361 ++++++++++++++++++ archive/github/issues/readme.md | 2 +- 2 files changed, 362 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/archive/github/issues/md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md b/archive/github/issues/md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md index 35c7d6f..4b30ed2 100644 --- a/archive/github/issues/md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md +++ b/archive/github/issues/md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md @@ -15983,6 +15983,367 @@ Documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk3AVceraTI) +#### [milahu](https://github.com/milahu) commented at [2024-01-16 09:20](https://github.com/milahu/alchi/issues/32#issuecomment-1893351357): + +holodomor = death by hunger, demonstration of power, fuck cops, fuck +industry, can i see your license, loicense, ... + +2024-01-12 + + + +> A man [growing food for informed +> customers](https://organicfarming.news/), without participating in the +> industrial meat/milk complex + +> Miller has used his sovereign citizen defense to push back against +> federal overreach in forcing him to comply with food safety rules as +> **he sells a range of food including raw milk, grass-fed cheese and +> beef, fresh produce and organic eggs to more than 4000 buyers. For his +> farming operations, he does not use petroleum products, chemical +> fertilizers, electricity or vaccines.** + +
+ +## Organic Amish farm raided, food seized after farmer pushed back against Fed overreach + +Tags: [agriculture](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/agriculture), [big +government](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/big-government), +[dairy](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/dairy), +[DOA](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/doa), +[farm](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/farm), +[fascism](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/fascism), [food +freedom](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-freedom), [food +police](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-police), [food +supply](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-supply), +[freedom](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/freedom), [government +overreach](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/government-overreach), +[harvest](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/harvest), +[insanity](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/insanity), +[intolerance](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/intolerance), +[Liberty](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/liberty-tag), +[obey](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/obey), [organic +farming](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/organic-farming), +[outrage](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/outrage), [police +state](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/police-state-tag), +[raid](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/raid), +[Resist](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/resist), [sovereign +defense](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/sovereign-defense), +[Tyranny](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/tyranny) + +An Amish farmer who sells a range of organic food from his Pennsylvania +farm was recently raided by the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture. +The department has been going after the farmer, Amos Miller, because he +has failed to comply with [federal farming +regulations](https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/big-govt-raids-small-amish-farmer-who-refuses-participate-industrial-meatmilk-complex). +Last Thursday, the Pennsylvania State Police could be seen serving a +search warrant at the all-natural farm, which is situated in the village +of Bird-in-Hand. A state police spokesperson said they were there to +help with scene security and that the search was part of a DOA +investigation. + +**Dozens of items were seized as part of the search, including +everything from ice cream and chocolate milk to eggnog and sour cream.** + +Authorities claim that they were investigating whether Miller's farm was +the source of a few cases of foodborne illness in the area and that +Miller “never licensed his retail operation.” The farmer has been +involved in litigation with the government about the safety and +inspection of his food for several years. + +Miller does not sell his products to the public in grocery stores, +instead [catering to private +clients](https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/05/police-raid-amos-miller-thomas-massie-promote-rollback-regulation/) +who wish to avoid the dangers associated with corporate farming +practices. + +His attorney, Robert Barnes, said: “Today, the Department of Agriculture +of the State of Pennsylvania suddenly came, without notice, raided Amos’ +farm, and detained everything Amos had in the farm’s freezer. They did +so in a lawless manner, without appropriate authority, in violation of +their own rules and regulations, despite never objecting to the prior +resolutions reached with the federal government, and despite a complete +failure by the state to even reach out to Amos’ known counsel.” + +Outlining the ways in which the raid was illegal, Barnes said that +[authorities were +required](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/) +to provide advance notice, show their credentials, and conduct their +inspections within reasonable time frames. He blamed “false statements +in an affidavit by a high-ranking state official in an agency with a +known grievance against independent farmers like Amos” for being the +source of the search warrant and complained that after authorities +failed to find proof of wrongdoing, they “illegally ordered detained +every item of food in one of Amos Miller’s coolers, including buffalo +meat not even subject to federal regulation.” + +He added that Miller will continue to do everything possible to provide +food to his patrons legally. + +Miller has used his sovereign citizen defense to push back against +federal overreach in forcing him to comply with food safety rules as he +sells a range of food including raw milk, grass-fed cheese and beef, +fresh produce and organic eggs to more than 4000 buyers. For his farming +operations, he does not use petroleum products, chemical fertilizers, +electricity or vaccines. + +Government should be focused on more pressing matters +Donald Trump Jr. expressed outrage over the raid on X, writing: "Imagine +what law enforcement could accomplish if they went after oh I don't +know, say, members of elite pedophile rings rather than farmers selling +to their neighbors???" + +Upon hearing about the story, Representative Thomas Massey (R-Kentucky) +commented: "Looks like Amos Miller's farm is being raided. With all of +the problems in society today, this is what the government wants to +focus on?" + +He added: "A man [growing food for informed +customers](https://organicfarming.news/), without participating in the +industrial meat/milk complex? It's shameful that it's come to this.” + +Massie is the co-author of the PRIME Act bill, which seeks to protect +smaller farmers and ranchers from federal overregulation. + +Sources for this article include: + +[ZeroHedge.com](https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/big-govt-raids-small-amish-farmer-who-refuses-participate-industrial-meatmilk-complex) + +[DailyCaller.com](https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/05/police-raid-amos-miller-thomas-massie-promote-rollback-regulation/) + +[FoodSafetyNews.com](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/) + +
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+ +IAmVladimirPutinAMA + +Hi, I'm local and familiar with this situation. + +There are thousands of farms around here. Most are smaller than this +one. Most are Amish. This is the only one that keeps getting food +inspectors up their ass. + +This isn't a case of "regulators vs the little guy" or "regulators vs +Amish", as evidenced by the thousands of local farms that aren't getting +the same kind of attention. It's a case of "regulators vs the guy whose +products keep putting children in the hospital". + +
+ +jt7855 + +Why do people keep purchasing his products? + +This issue has been largely about choice. Do you sell raw milk? +Unpasteurized milk? How does the government deal with you? + +
+ +IAmVladimirPutinAMA + +> Why do people keep purchasing his products? + +They don't, by and large. He's providing a niche product to a niche +market. He has a few thousand customers, out of 330 million Americans. + +> Do you sell raw milk? Unpasteurized milk? How does the government deal +> with you? + +I am not personally directly involved in the dairy industry. + +The "personal choice" thing is a legitimate question-- should people be +able to purchase products that may harm them? Should all drugs be +legalized? etc + +This guy's case is often presented as "government vs the little Amish +guy". If that were truly the case, they'd be starting with the thousands +of farms that are much littler and much Amisher. + +
+ +jt7855 + +Milk isn’t a drug and you aren’t in any danger of the government raising +your business + +
+ +IAmVladimirPutinAMA + +> Milk isn’t a drug + +Thought you were all about "personal choice". So much for that. + +> you aren’t in any danger of the government raising your business + +Yeah, that's where you're wrong. My industry's regulations make the food +industry look easy. And we meet those regulations just fine, and we get +regularly audited which is a bit of a hassle but they never find issues, +and we make plenty of profit, and you almost certainly have a product in +your home that was made in my workplace. + +
+ +jt7855 + +You get plenty of profit. That is good. I guess you need the government +to tell you how to run your industry. Without that stern leadership you +might have more competition and I might not have your product in my +home. + +
+ +Accomplished-Quiet78 + +The problem is that they broke multiple laws that are in place to stop +this from happening. Not only do they not even have a license to sell in +Pennsylvania, but they are also selling their product across state +borders, which is a federal crime since 1986. + +
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+ +Batbuckleyourpants + +2015\. They caused an outbreak of listeria, proven by genetic testing on +the germs. Two people having drunk their milk developed listeriosis , +one of them died. + +They were ordered by a court to stop selling self produced food because +people kept getting poisoned, because these are filthy filthy people, +whose filthy way killed someone. + +In 2022 they agreed to stop selling self produced products. + +2023\. What do you know, they are still selling tainted food, and this +time caused a multi state outbreak of E.Coli, hospitalizing several +children who tried their eggnog. + +Finally in 2024 authorities are making a move to stop these people. They +violated a plea agreement that was keeping them out of jail. + +These people are dangerous. They have already killed people and need to +go to jail. + +[Authorities search Lancaster farm after reports that tainted eggnog +sickened +children](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/01/authorities-search-lancaster-farm-after-reports-that-tainted-eggnog-sickened-children.html) + +
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+ +StarMNF + +Raw milk is a product that has pros and cons. In addition to the +nutrients, many people believe the bacteria is helpful in building +immune systems. + +Bacteria is a tricky thing because to be healthy, you need the right +balance of bacteria in your body, not to eliminate it entirely. That’s +why pro-biotics are sold. + +People who grew up in overly sterile environments get a lot of allergies +when they grow older. There’s even a theory that some autoimmune +diseases are caused by over sterilization. + +That’s why “bacteria = gross” is an over-simplification. Humans have +co-evolved with bacteria to have a symbiotic relationship with each +other. + +Ask yourself how many people do you know who died or got seriously sick +from drinking Raw Milk? Is it possible? Certainly. But what’s the +statistical probability? + +Once upon a time, Odwalla sold unpasteurized juices. They were good and +nutritious for you. Then one day, a kid died of E. coli poisoning. So +they shut that whole industry down, and now Odwalla sells only +pasteurized juices. Real Odwalla is gone from the market. + +The kid dying from E. coli was a one-out-of-a-million scenario. Maybe +even one-out-of-a-hundred-million. Yes, it was inevitable that someone +would eventually die because if a product becomes popular enough, that +will eventually happen. + +But to prevent that, every bottle sold must have fewer nutrients. People +rarely realize that life is about tradeoffs. + +Consumers should be allowed to decide for themselves if the benefits +outweigh the risks, when serious risks are low probability. Rather than +outright banning such products, government can slap a big fat warning +label about the risks like they do with cigarettes. Just don’t go +overboard like California does with the cancer labels, or nobody will +take it seriously. + +
+ +IAmSeabiscuit61 + +I agree with you; let consumers choose. I remember when we used to be +able to buy unpasteurized apple cider (they called it cider, as opposed +to the clear, filtered, juice) from local apple farmer's roadside +markets. It tasted so much better than the pasteurized juice, and I +never knew anyone to become ill from drinking it. It was non-alcoholic, +but if you left it in the refrigerator long enough, it would get a +little bit of a "kick" to it, though we usually drank it all before that +happened. I really miss it. + +
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+ +[Pennsylvania ag officials search Miller Organic Farm for the source of +Shiga-toxins. By Dan Flynn on January 6, +2024](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/) + +[Authorities search Lancaster farm after reports that tainted eggnog +sickened children. Jan. 06, +2024](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/01/authorities-search-lancaster-farm-after-reports-that-tainted-eggnog-sickened-children.html) + ------------------------------------------------------------------------ \[Export of Github issue for diff --git a/archive/github/issues/readme.md b/archive/github/issues/readme.md index 73ac0c3..fd789e4 100644 --- a/archive/github/issues/readme.md +++ b/archive/github/issues/readme.md @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ feedback beispiel
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