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understand what's going on around you
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you are in a state of war and you have
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precious
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little time to save yourself is a slow
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process
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which we call active measures what
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matters is essentials
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economy foreign relations defense
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systems
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with a violent change of power structure
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and economy period of normalization
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this is what will happen in the united
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states if you allow all these schmucks
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to put a big brother government
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in washington dc who will promise lots
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of things
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never mind whether the promises are
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fulfillable or not
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the disaster is coming closer and closer
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the danger
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is real subversion is the term
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if if you look in in a dictionary or
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criminal code
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to that matter usually is ex
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is explained as a part of activity
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to destroy
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things like religion government
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system political economical system of a
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country
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and usually it's linked to espionage and
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such romantic things as blowing up
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bridges side tracking trains
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clock and dagger activity in hollywood
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style
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when what i'm going to talk about now
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has
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absolutely nothing to do with the cliche
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of espionage or kgb activity of
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collecting information
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so the greatest mistake or mis
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misconception i think is that uh
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whenever we are talking about kgb for
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some strange reason
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uh starting from hollywood movie makers
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to professors of political science
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and quote-unquote experts on soviet
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affairs or
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cremonologists as they call themselves
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they think that
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the most desirable thing for andropov
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and the whole kgb
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is to steal blueprints of some
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supersonic jet
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bring it back to soviet union and
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sell it to the soviet military
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industrial complex
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it's only partly true if if we take
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the whole time money
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and manpower that the soviet union
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and kgb in particular spends
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outside of ussr border we will discover
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of course there are no official
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statistics unlike with cia or fbi
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that the espionage as such
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occupies only 10 to 15 percent
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of money time and manpower
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15 percent
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of the activity of kgb the rest 85
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is always subversion
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and unlike a dictionary of english
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oxford dictionary
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subversion in soviet terminology means
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always a destructive
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aggressive activity aimed to
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destroy the country nation
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or geographical area of your enemy
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so there's no romantics in there
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absolutely no blowing up bridges no
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microfilms in coca-cola cans
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nothing of that sort no james bond
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nonsense
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it's most of this activity is overt
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legitimate and easily
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observable if you give yourself time and
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trouble to observe
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it but according to the law
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and law enforcement systems of the
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western civilization
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it's not a crime exactly because of
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misconception
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manipulation of terms we think that
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subverter is a person who is going to
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blow up our beautiful bridges
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no subverter is a student who come for
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exchange a diplomat
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an actor an artist a journalist like
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myself
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was 10 years ago
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now subversion
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is an activity which
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is a two-way traffic
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you cannot subvert an enemy which
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doesn't want to be subverted
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if you know history of japan for example
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before uh 20th century japan was a
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closed society
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the moment a foreign boat comes to the
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shores of japan
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the imperial japanese army politely tell
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them to get lost
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and if american salesman comes to the
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shore of japan
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let's say 60 or 70 years from now back
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and says oh i have a very beautiful
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vacuum cleaner for you
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you know with the good financing please
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leave us we don't need your vacuum
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cleaner
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if they don't leave they shoot them
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to preserve their culture ideology
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traditions
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values intact
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you were not able to subvert japan
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you cannot subvert soviet union because
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the borders are closed
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the media is censored by the government
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the population is controlled by the kgb
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and internal police with all the
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beautiful glossy pictures of time
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magazine
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and magazine america which is published
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by by the
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uh american embassy in moscow you cannot
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subvert soviet citizens because the
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magazine never reaches
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soviet citizens it's collected from the
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new stance
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and thrown to garbage can
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subversion can be only successful when
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the
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initiator the actor the act the agent of
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subversion
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has a responsive target
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it's a two-way traffic united states is
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a receptive target of subversion
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there is no response similar to that one
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from united states to the soviet union
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it stops halfway somewhere it never
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reaches here
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the theory of subversion goes all the
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way back
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2 500 years ago
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the first human being who formulated the
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tactics of subversion was a chinese
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philosopher
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by the name of sun set
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to 3500 years bc
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it was an advisor for several imperial
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courts in
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ancient china and he said
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after long meditation that
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to implement foreign to implement
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state policy in a warlike manner
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it's the most counterproductive barbaric
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and inefficient to fight on a
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battlefield
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you know that war is continuation of
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state policy right so if you want
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successfully to implement your state
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policy
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and you start fighting this is the most
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idiotic way to do it
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the highest arc of warfare is not
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to fight at all
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but to subvert anything of value in the
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country of your enemy
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until such time that the perception of
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reality of your enemy
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is screwed up to such an extent that he
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does not perceive you as an
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enemy and that your system
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your civilization and your for ambitions
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look to your enemy as an alternative
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if not desirable then at least visible
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better red than dead
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that's the ultimate purpose the final
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stage of subversion after which you can
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simply take your enemy without a single
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shot being fired
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if the subversion is successful this is
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basically what subversion is
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as you see not the single mentioning of
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blowing up bridges of course sunset
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didn't know about
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blowing up bridges maybe there were not
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that many bridges at that time
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but the basics
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of subversion is being taught to every
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student
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of kgb school in ussr and to officers of
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military academies
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i'm not sure if the same offer is
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included in the
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list of breeding for american officers
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to say nothing about ordinary students
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of political science
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i had difficulty to find the translation
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of sunset
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in in the library of a university
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in toronto and later on here in los
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angeles
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but it's a it's a book which is not
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available it is forced to every students
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in ussr
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every student who is who is taught to be
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dealing further
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in in his future career with foreigners
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what's the version is basically it
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consists of four
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periods time wise
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if we start from here and go this way
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time right this is the beginning
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point the first stage of subversion is
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the process which is called
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basically demoralization says for itself
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what it is
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it takes from um
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say 15 to 20 years
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to demoralize a society
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why why 15 or 20 years this
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is the time sufficient to educate
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one generation
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of students or children one generation
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one lifetime span of a person a human
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being
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which is dedicated to study to shaping
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up
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the outlook ideology personality
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no more no less usually it takes from 15
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to 20 years
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what it includes it includes
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influencing or by various methods
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infiltration
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propaganda methods direct contacts
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doesn't really matter
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i will describe them later of various
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areas where public opinion is formulated
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or shaped
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religion educational system
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social life administration
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law enforcement system military
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of course and labor
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and employer relations economy
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okay five areas
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i will not write them down because will
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not have enough space
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some sometimes when i describe all the
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methods
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uh students ask me question are you
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sure this is the result of the soviet
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influence
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not necessarily you see the tactic of
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subversion
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about which i'm talking is similar to
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the martial art
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the japanese martial art if you're if
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some of you familiar with that tactic
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probably you will remember that if an
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enemy is bigger and
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heavier than yourself it would be very
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painful
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to resist his direct strike
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if a heavier person wants to strike me
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in the face
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it would be very naive and
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counterproductive to stop his blow
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the chinese and japanese judo
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art tells us what to do first to
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avoid the strike then to grab the feast
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and continue his movement in the
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direction
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where it was before right until the
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enemy crashes in the wall you see
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so what happens here the target country
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obviously does something wrong if it's a
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free democratic society
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there are many different movements
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within the society
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that obviously in every society
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there are people who are against this
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society they may be simple criminals
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ideologically in disagreement with the
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state policy
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conscientious enemies simply psychotic
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personalities who are against anything
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right and finally they're a small group
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of agents of a foreign
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nation bought subverted
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recruited right the moment
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all these movements will be directed in
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one direction
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right this is the time to catch that
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movement and to continue
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until the movement forces the whole
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society
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into collapse into crisis right so
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that's exactly
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the martial art tactic we don't stop
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an enemy we let him go we help him to go
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in the direction we want them to go okay
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so on the stage of demoralization
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obviously there are tendencies in each
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society in each country which are going
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to opposite direction from the basic
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moral values and principles
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to take advantage of these movements to
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capitalize on them
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is the main purpose of the originator of
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subversion
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so we have religion we have education
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we have social life we have power
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structure
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we have labor relations unions and
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finally we have
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law and order one two three four five
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six
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okay these are the areas of application
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of subversion
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what it means exactly in case of
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religion
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destroy ridicule it replace it with
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various sex cults which bring
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people's attention faith whether it is
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naive primitive doesn't really matter
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as long as the basically accepted
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religious dogma
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is being slowly eroded and taken
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away from the supreme purpose of
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religion to keep people
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in touch with with the supreme being
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that serves the purpose
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therefore accepted respected
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religious organizations with fake
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organizations
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distract people attention from the real
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faith
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and attract them to various different
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faiths
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education distract them from learning
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something which is constructive
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pragmatic
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efficient instead of mathematics physics
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foreign languages
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chemistry teach them history of urban
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warfare
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natural food
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home economy your sexuality
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anything long as it takes you away
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okay uh social life
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replace traditionally established
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institutions and organizations with
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fake organizations take away the
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initiative from people
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take away the responsibility from
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naturally established links between
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individuals group of individuals and
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society at large
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and replace them with artificially
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bureaucratically controlled bodies
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instead of social life and friendship
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between neighbors
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establish social workers
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institutions the people who are on
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payroll of whom
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society no bureaucracy the main concern
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of social workers is not your family not
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you not social relations between groups
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of people
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the main concern is to get the paycheck
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from the government what will be the
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result of their social work doesn't
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really matter
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they can develop all kind of concepts
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to show them to show to the government
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and to the people that they are useful
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okay away from the natural links
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power structure okay the natural
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bodies of administration which are
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traditionally either elected by
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by people at large or appointed by
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elected leaders of society are being
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actively substituted by artificial
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bodies
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the bodies of people groups of people
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whom nobody elected
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never as a matter of fact most of the
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people
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don't like them at all and yet they
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exist
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one of the such group is media who
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elected them
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how come how come they they face they
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have so much power
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almost monopolistic power on your mind
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they can
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rape your mind but who elected them how
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come
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they are they have a nerve to decide
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what is good and what is bad for
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for the elected by you president and his
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administration
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who the hell are they uh
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spiro agnew who was hated by the liberal
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left
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called them a bunch of enfield snobs
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and that's exactly what they are
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they think they know they don't say
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the level of mediocracy in a big
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establishment like new york times los
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angeles times
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major television network you don't have
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to be excellent journalist
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you have to be exactly a mediocre
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journalist that's easier to survive
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there's no competition anymore
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you have your good nice income 100
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000 a year that's it whether you are
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better or worse doesn't really matter
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anymore as soon as you're smiling
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to the camera and do your job
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that's it no more no more competition
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power structure slowly
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is eroded by the bodies and groups of
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people
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who do not have neither qualification
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nor the will of people
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to keep them in power and yet they do
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have power
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okay together with that there is another
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process
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law enforcement law and order uh
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organization and structure is being
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eroded
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for the last 20 25 years you you if you
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see
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old movies and new movies you can see
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that
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in new movies a policeman an officer of
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the united states army looks
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dumb angry psychotic paranoid
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a criminal looks nice kind of well
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he smokes hash and shoots the whatever
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drug
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but basically he's a nice human being
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he's creative
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and he's unproductive only because
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society oppresses him
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whereby a general pentagon is always by
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definition a dumb
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a war maniac a policeman is a
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pig rude policeman he abuses his power
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no a generality generalization like that
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the hatred the mistrust to the
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people who supposed to protect you and
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enforce law and order
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moral relativity the angel of warner
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process lasted two years in los
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angeles and yet there are still some
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lawyers who say look
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he's a nice character as a matter of
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fact there was some witness who said
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also a criminal who said well he's a
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nice guy
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i asked him one day to burn a house of
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my enemy and he wouldn't do it
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[Laughter]
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a slow substitution of basic moral
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principles
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whereby a criminal is not a criminal
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actually he's a defendant
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even if his guilt is proven there is
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still a doubt to kill or not to kill to
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be or not to be
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thy shall not kill yes but
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this uh line may not necessarily be
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applicable to a murderer
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but i shall not murder that should be
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the the presumption not not that
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i shall not kill okay labor relations
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at this stage within 15 to 20 years
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we destroy the
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traditionally established links of
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bargaining between employer
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and employee the classical marxist
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leninist
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theory of natural exchange of goods
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a person a has five sacks of grain and
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person b
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has five pairs of shoes
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and the natural exchange without money
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is when they
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bargain between each other and only with
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the introduction of the third for
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c an entirely
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third foreign stranger who says no don't
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give him
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five sacks of bring give it to me and
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you give me your five pairs of shoes and
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i will distribute it accordingly
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so the economy will go
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this is the death of natural exchange
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and that death of natural bargaining
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well trade unions were established 100
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years ago
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the objective was to improve working
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conditions and to protect the rights of
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workers
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from those employers who were abusing
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their their right because they had more
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money
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objectively at that time initially the
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trade union movement did work
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what we see now is that the bargaining
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process
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is no longer resulting into in the
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compromise which is leading objectively
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to
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betterment of working conditions and
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increase of salary what we see
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is that after each prolonged strike the
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workers
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lose even if they have 10 increase of
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their salaries
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they cannot catch up due to inflation
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and due to missed time
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more than that millions of people suffer
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from that strike
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because economy now is interdependent
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it's intertwined like one body
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if previously still workers say hundred
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years ago could strike and nobody would
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suffer
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now it's impossible anymore if a garbage
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collector strikes today
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the rest of the multi-million city is
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stinking
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i mean that there's no more service
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in quebec for example we had the
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electricians who were on strike in the
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middle
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of winter you can freeze your bottom
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and they still weren't strike did they
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catch up with the celery no
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they lost who benefited the leaders of
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trade union
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what is the motivation for strike
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improving
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improving our workers condition no
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obviously it's not
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then what is it ideology
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to prove to these capitalists
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and the obedient horde of workers like
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sheep follow these people and they
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cannot disobey why
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because if they do you know what happens
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to them tickets
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murders shooting truck drivers by
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pikachus in montreal for example i saw
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with my own eyes when i was
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correspondent of cbc
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international canadian broadcasting
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corporation when the workers of aircraft
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factory
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destroyed computers and and the
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equipment in the factory
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and they the administration employed
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strike breakers
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their cars were turned upside down and
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burned
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their houses were burned their kids were
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intimidated and some
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victims were there of that you can be
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sure
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why to improve conditions of workers
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no ideology okay so
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this is what happens basically
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it may or may not happen without the
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help of the soviet union
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but the natural tendencies are being
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greatly taken advantage of and
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capitalized by the soviet propaganda
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systems how
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whenever trade union strikes we have
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influx of propaganda
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mass media ideological dissemination the
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workers right
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|
and we repeat it like parrots yes
|
|
workers right whose rights workers
|
|
no the the only freedom of worker to
|
|
sell his labor according to his own
|
|
desire and will is taken away from him
|
|
by whom
|
|
by trade union boss unlimited power
|
|
is given responsibility i want to sell
|
|
my labor not for 250 an hour but for two
|
|
dollars i don't have right
|
|
my freedom is denied to me i know that
|
|
if i sell my work
|
|
for 200 for two dollars an hour not for
|
|
three dollars now
|
|
i will compete better with it with the
|
|
other guy who is lazy
|
|
and more greedy i don't need two three
|
|
dollars i need only two dollars
|
|
no i was made to believe by media by
|
|
business
|
|
by advertising agencies that i need more
|
|
and more and more
|
|
have you ever heard any advertising on
|
|
tv to consume less
|
|
no no way
|
|
whether you need a six-cylinder car or
|
|
not
|
|
you have to buy it and hurry up
|
|
when i was driving here on the local
|
|
radio station
|
|
an excited announcer said you hurry up
|
|
rush and safe safe safe there is a
|
|
plenty house's sale
|
|
save by buying more
|
|
of course of course it would be too
|
|
naive to expect that kgb makes that
|
|
advertising agency
|
|
to do such a crazy commercial no of
|
|
course not
|
|
but what we did when i was working for
|
|
knowledge depressing
|
|
we would snow plow editorial offices
|
|
student organizations religious group
|
|
with literature
|
|
of class struggle may if if not directly
|
|
marxism then it is propaganda
|
|
then a propaganda of of a legitimate
|
|
aspirations of working class
|
|
betterment of life equality equality
|
|
mind you president kennedy once said
|
|
people we will make america to believe
|
|
that people are born
|
|
equal are people born equal
|
|
is there any mentioning in the bible or
|
|
any other
|
|
holy scripture in any religion any
|
|
religion if you don't believe me go to
|
|
library and check it
|
|
there is not a single word about
|
|
equality
|
|
just the opposite by your deeds
|
|
god will judge you what you do is
|
|
important
|
|
the merit of your personality
|
|
you cannot legislate equality if you
|
|
want to be equal
|
|
you have to be equal you have to deserve
|
|
it
|
|
and yet we build our society on the
|
|
principle of equality we say people are
|
|
equal
|
|
we know it is false it's a lie
|
|
some people are tall and stupid others
|
|
are short
|
|
bold and clever
|
|
if we make them
|
|
[Laughter]
|
|
if we make them equal by force
|
|
if we put the principle of equality in
|
|
the basis of our social political
|
|
structure
|
|
it's the same thing as building a house
|
|
on sand
|
|
sooner or later it will collapse and
|
|
that's exactly what happens
|
|
and we as soviet propaganda makers are
|
|
trying to
|
|
push you in the direction which you go
|
|
yourself equality
|
|
yes the quality people are equal land of
|
|
equal opportunities
|
|
is it true or not think about it
|
|
equal opportunities should there be
|
|
equal opportunities
|
|
for me and for a lazy bastard who come
|
|
here
|
|
from some other country and immediately
|
|
registers as a welfare
|
|
uh recipient benefits i never received a
|
|
single dot no
|
|
sorry i did this once but i never
|
|
applied for welfare for the 13 years i
|
|
took any job
|
|
security guard journalist taxi driver
|
|
anything
|
|
well i was restless but some people
|
|
don't like it they
|
|
immediately so why should we be why
|
|
should we have equal opportunities
|
|
why the equal opportunity to
|
|
excel equal opportunity in equal
|
|
circumstances yes but we know people are
|
|
different to excel yes
|
|
provided we reach the same level of
|
|
excellency
|
|
perfection which is hypothetical distant
|
|
future
|
|
yes maybe but we know perfectly well
|
|
that
|
|
even with the best intentions people
|
|
could not
|
|
be equal why should we have equality in
|
|
in in the say legal system myself
|
|
i'm considering myself a law-abiding
|
|
citizen
|
|
and a person who comes here to rob and
|
|
shoot say
|
|
the united states administration on the
|
|
card
|
|
imported thousands of cuban criminals
|
|
they were non-criminal yet they were
|
|
accepted
|
|
do you think it's fair if myself and my
|
|
wife from philippines who work like
|
|
excuse me horse as a lab technician in
|
|
the hospital
|
|
should have the same rights as a
|
|
criminal film from cuba
|
|
why and yet we repeat as parents
|
|
equality equality equality
|
|
and the soviet propaganda system helps
|
|
us to believe that equality is something
|
|
which is desirable
|
|
democracy as it was established by
|
|
fathers of this country
|
|
of the system in the last century
|
|
is is not equality
|
|
is the system where different people
|
|
unequal people
|
|
have a chance to survive and help each
|
|
other
|
|
in constant competition in constant
|
|
perfection
|
|
not inequality which is superimposed
|
|
from from a
|
|
godfather or a nice person in washington
|
|
dc
|
|
and the absolute equality exists in
|
|
soviet union
|
|
quote unquote equality everybody is
|
|
equally
|
|
in dirt except some people are more
|
|
equal than the others in politburo
|
|
so the moment you you bring a country
|
|
to the point of almost total
|
|
demoralization when nothing
|
|
works anymore when you are not sure that
|
|
is right
|
|
or or wrong good and bad
|
|
but there's no division between evil and
|
|
good when even the
|
|
leaders of church sometimes say well
|
|
violence for the sake of justice
|
|
especially social justice is justified
|
|
in the countries like
|
|
nicaragua el salvador well maybe
|
|
rhodesia
|
|
and we listen to them and say yeah
|
|
probably
|
|
it's true is it true no it is not true
|
|
violence is not justified especially for
|
|
the sake of
|
|
quote-unquote social justice introduced
|
|
by marxist leninist
|
|
that is my former colleague from noah's
|
|
depressed agency
|
|
okay so where is that point the next
|
|
step is destabilization
|
|
again this word says for itself what it
|
|
is to destabilize
|
|
all the relations all the accepted
|
|
institutions
|
|
and organizations in the country of your
|
|
enemy how you do it
|
|
you don't have to send up a battalion of
|
|
kgb
|
|
agents to blow up bridges no you let
|
|
them do it themselves
|
|
the area of application is again it's
|
|
it's
|
|
it's narrower now not like the previous
|
|
case
|
|
the overt legitimate actions of the
|
|
of the kgb in this case would be
|
|
hardly noticeable there is no crime if a
|
|
professor who recently went to ussr
|
|
introduces a course of marxist leninism
|
|
in in a californian college for example
|
|
nobody is going to to come to his
|
|
doorstep and say okay
|
|
mister come you are under arrest no it's
|
|
not a crime
|
|
it's not even considered a moral crime
|
|
against your country
|
|
so the area of application here is
|
|
narrowing down
|
|
to economy again labor relations
|
|
right to law and order
|
|
plus military
|
|
and the economy law and order
|
|
yes and again the uh media but
|
|
uh wider scope little bit different i'll
|
|
explain
|
|
later okay basically three areas
|
|
economy the radicalization of
|
|
bargaining process if on that stage
|
|
we still could achieve theoretically
|
|
some positive
|
|
compromise between the negotiating sides
|
|
with with uh say uh
|
|
our arbitrary introduction of rb3
|
|
judges third side objectively judging
|
|
the
|
|
the demands of both sides here it's
|
|
radicalization
|
|
on this on the stage of destabilization
|
|
we cannot
|
|
come to compromise even within a family
|
|
the husband and wife couldn't figure out
|
|
which is better
|
|
husband wants his kids to eat at the
|
|
table and wife
|
|
wants him a child to roam around the
|
|
room and
|
|
and drop food all over the floor they
|
|
cannot come to compromise
|
|
unless they start a fight it's
|
|
impossible to reach a compromise
|
|
constructive compromise between
|
|
neighbors
|
|
some people say i don't like you to
|
|
watering your lawn at that time because
|
|
exactly at that time i'm walking my dog
|
|
and he's getting nervous
|
|
he cannot uh pass his bowels you know so
|
|
they cannot compromise they go to
|
|
a a civil court or something like that
|
|
radicalization of human relations
|
|
no more compromise fight fight fight
|
|
the normal traditionally accepted
|
|
relations are destabilized
|
|
the relations between teachers and
|
|
students
|
|
in schools and colleges fight
|
|
the the relations between in economical
|
|
sphere between
|
|
laborers and and employers are further
|
|
radicalized no more
|
|
acceptance of the legitimacy of demands
|
|
of workers
|
|
unlike japanese with the theory z if you
|
|
ever heard about it
|
|
when the workers are involved in
|
|
decision making process therefore they
|
|
don't have
|
|
uh moral incentive to to fight their uh
|
|
their bosses in united states is just
|
|
the opposite the harder is the fight the
|
|
better
|
|
the more heroic they looked when the
|
|
greyhound uh
|
|
network was on strike recently the
|
|
correspondence of local tv networks uh
|
|
all over the united states were
|
|
approaching these strikers and they say
|
|
oh yes we are doing something nice they
|
|
look like heroes and they were proud
|
|
there was some family uh the husband
|
|
was a bus driver now they decided in
|
|
in in the protest against the uh bosses
|
|
to
|
|
camp somewhere in the forest and they
|
|
were presented to the to the audience as
|
|
as a heroic nice people
|
|
you see the violent clashes between
|
|
passengers ticketers and and
|
|
the strikers are presented as something
|
|
normal
|
|
10 15 20 years ago we would we would be
|
|
we would be angry say why why why so
|
|
much hatred
|
|
today we are not we say well commonplace
|
|
radicalization militarization sometimes
|
|
as i explained on that stage i
|
|
took a step a little bit further
|
|
shooting people
|
|
okay law and order now
|
|
also is uh
|
|
pushed into the area where previously
|
|
people
|
|
settle their differences uh peacefully
|
|
and legitimately
|
|
now we are getting with this uh
|
|
court cases in the in the smallest
|
|
irrelevant cases we cannot solve our
|
|
problems anymore
|
|
the society at large becomes more and
|
|
more antagonistic
|
|
between individuals between groups of
|
|
individuals and the society at large
|
|
the media puts himself in the opposition
|
|
to the society
|
|
in general at large
|
|
separate alienated okay
|
|
on that stage you remember i was talking
|
|
a a couple of hours ago
|
|
about the sleepers that's when the
|
|
students
|
|
from say united states if they are
|
|
trained in lumumba university
|
|
or developing nations that's the
|
|
students i was dealing with are being
|
|
sent back
|
|
from the soviet union here or if they
|
|
were already in the united states in the
|
|
country
|
|
which is the object of subversion they
|
|
spring to action
|
|
the sleepers go up
|
|
they slept for 15 to 20 years
|
|
now they become leaders of groups
|
|
preachers uh
|
|
i don't know public public figures
|
|
prominently
|
|
they act they actively include
|
|
themselves in a political process
|
|
all of a sudden we see a homosexual
|
|
15 years ago he did his dirty job and
|
|
nobody cared
|
|
now he makes it a political issue he
|
|
demands
|
|
recognition respect human rights and
|
|
hiral is a
|
|
large group of people and there are
|
|
violent clashes between him and police
|
|
his group and
|
|
and ordinary people no matter what it's
|
|
black against white
|
|
yellows again green doesn't matter
|
|
where's the vision line goes
|
|
as long as this group come into
|
|
antagonistic clash
|
|
sometimes militantly sometimes with
|
|
firearms
|
|
that is the stabilization process the
|
|
sleepers
|
|
many of whom are simply kgb agents
|
|
become leaders of the process of
|
|
destabilization
|
|
doesn't mean that comrade andropov sends
|
|
comrade ivanov to the united states
|
|
the person who takes care is already
|
|
here
|
|
he's a respected citizen of united
|
|
states sometimes he gets
|
|
money from various foundations for his
|
|
legitimate
|
|
uh struggle for i don't know human
|
|
rights
|
|
women rights kid lib prison lib whatever
|
|
there are sympathetic americans who
|
|
donate their money to him
|
|
this could be like this stabilization
|
|
process usually leads directly
|
|
to the process of crisis in case of
|
|
developing nations
|
|
that's the area where i i was active
|
|
the process starts
|
|
when when the
|
|
legitimate bodies
|
|
of power the social structure collapse
|
|
it cannot function anymore
|
|
so instead we have artificial body
|
|
injected into society such as
|
|
non-elected committees you remember i
|
|
was talking about them here
|
|
social workers who are not elected by
|
|
people media who sell who are
|
|
self-appointed rulers of your
|
|
opinion uh some strange groups
|
|
uh which claim that they know how to
|
|
lead society forward
|
|
they don't usually all they care is how
|
|
to collect the nations and
|
|
and from and sell their own concocted
|
|
ideology
|
|
mixture of religion and ideology here
|
|
we have all this artificial body
|
|
claiming power
|
|
if the power is denied to them they take
|
|
it by force
|
|
in case of iran for example all of a
|
|
sudden we have revolutionary committees
|
|
who what what kind of revolution there
|
|
was no revolution yet
|
|
and yet they had the committees they
|
|
were taking power of
|
|
of judgment they had they had the power
|
|
of execution they had the power of
|
|
of legislation and that they had the
|
|
power of
|
|
judicial all of them combined in one
|
|
person who is half-baked intellectual
|
|
sometimes graduated from harvard
|
|
university or berkeley
|
|
he comes back to his country and um he
|
|
thinks that he knows the answer to all
|
|
the social economical problems
|
|
okay crisis is when society cannot
|
|
function any more productively it
|
|
collapses
|
|
obviously that's the word for crisis so
|
|
therefore
|
|
the population at large is looking for a
|
|
savior
|
|
the religious groups are expecting a
|
|
messiah to come
|
|
the workers say we have family to feed
|
|
let's have a strong government maybe
|
|
socialist government centralized when
|
|
when somebody put put their employers on
|
|
their place
|
|
and let us work we are sick and tired of
|
|
going to strike and
|
|
missing overtime and all that stuff we
|
|
need some strong man
|
|
strong government a leader
|
|
a savior is needed population is sick
|
|
and tired already
|
|
and here we are we have a savior either
|
|
a foreign nation comes in
|
|
or the local group of leftists
|
|
marxist no matter what they call
|
|
themselves sandinista
|
|
a reverend or some sort
|
|
bishop musureva like in zimbabwe
|
|
doesn't matter a savior comes and says i
|
|
will
|
|
lead you so we have two alternatives
|
|
here
|
|
civil war and invasion
|
|
okay see how it goes
|
|
civil war we know what it is lebanon is
|
|
the best example
|
|
the civil war which was artificially
|
|
implanted
|
|
in lebanon by injection of force of plo
|
|
palestinian liberation organization
|
|
invasion we have in many other countries
|
|
like afghanistan
|
|
name any east european country it was
|
|
invaded by the soviet army
|
|
but the result is the same the next
|
|
stage is
|
|
normalization normalization
|
|
is a very ironic word of course
|
|
it is borrowed from 1968 situation in
|
|
czechoslovakia when the soviet
|
|
propaganda
|
|
and after them new york times declared
|
|
the country is normalized
|
|
the tanks moved into prague so there is
|
|
no more prague spring there is no more
|
|
violence normal normalization
|
|
at that stage the
|
|
self-appointed rulers of the society
|
|
don't need any revolution anymore they
|
|
don't need any radicalism anymore so
|
|
this is the reverse from destabilization
|
|
basically it is
|
|
stabilizing the country by force
|
|
so all these sleepers and activists and
|
|
social workers and liberals
|
|
and homosexuals and professors and
|
|
marxists and levines
|
|
are being eliminated physically
|
|
sometimes
|
|
they've done their job already okay they
|
|
are not needed anymore
|
|
the new rulers need stability to exploit
|
|
the nation to exploit the country to
|
|
take advantages
|
|
of the victory okay so no more
|
|
revolutionaries please
|
|
and that's exactly what happens in
|
|
number of countries you remember
|
|
bangladesh
|
|
this is the crisis in which i was
|
|
instrumental first they had mujibur
|
|
rahman
|
|
in 1971 he was the leader of of people's
|
|
party
|
|
league with mustache like stalin he was
|
|
in in
|
|
russia many times in five years he was
|
|
shocked by his former colleagues
|
|
marxists
|
|
he fulfilled his function in afghanistan
|
|
it happened three times
|
|
because there was taraki then there was
|
|
amin nowadays
|
|
they killed each other successively one
|
|
after another
|
|
the moment he fulfills his duty the
|
|
first one demoralized country the second
|
|
distabilized
|
|
the third one brought it to crisis
|
|
goodbye comrade
|
|
karma comes from moscow and put him into
|
|
the seat of power
|
|
same thing happened in grenada recently
|
|
maurice bishop
|
|
marxist was killed by austin what's his
|
|
name general something
|
|
it was also a marxism right
|
|
so no more revolutions please
|
|
normalization now
|
|
from now on no more strikes no more
|
|
homosexual
|
|
sexuals no more women lived no more kid
|
|
lived
|
|
no more lib period
|
|
good solid democratic proletarian
|
|
freedom
|
|
now to reverse this process
|
|
takes enormous effort when today
|
|
united states had to invade granada
|
|
to reverse the process of subversion
|
|
some people say
|
|
boy this is not good it's not kosher to
|
|
invade the beautiful country
|
|
island of granada well why didn't you
|
|
stop the process here
|
|
when granada was just approached by
|
|
leftists
|
|
why not to prevent maurice bishop to
|
|
come in power in the first place
|
|
did grenadas want him very questionable
|
|
they didn't know who was most bishop in
|
|
the first place
|
|
he came to power by coup d'etat himself
|
|
okay now we let the situation develop
|
|
further and for them further
|
|
until the crisis and normalization very
|
|
soon
|
|
and then united states decided to invade
|
|
country discovering that the
|
|
the country was absolutely a military
|
|
base for the soviet union
|
|
of course it's a drastic measure of
|
|
course it's repeated that
|
|
marine corps had to lose what 17 lives
|
|
very bad
|
|
why not to stop the process before it
|
|
comes to crisis
|
|
or no intellectuals will not let you
|
|
it's interference into domestic affairs
|
|
they're very careful not to not not to
|
|
let
|
|
american administration to interfere in
|
|
domestic affairs of latin american
|
|
countries
|
|
they don't mind soviet union interfere
|
|
in this affair
|
|
okay so to reverse this process from
|
|
here
|
|
it takes only and always military force
|
|
no other force on earth can reverse this
|
|
process at this point
|
|
at this point it does not take military
|
|
invasion
|
|
of united states army it takes strong
|
|
action like in chile
|
|
a cia covert involvement
|
|
to prevent the savior from outside to
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come into power
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and to stabilize country before it
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erupts into civil war
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okay support the right-wing conservative
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forces buy money by crooks so love
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doesn't matter
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stabilize the kind don't let the crisis
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develop into into civil war or invasion
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oh no your liberals will say it's
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against the law
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the congress will not appropriate money
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for covert actions
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of cia why not
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should we wait till the normalization
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come and soviet tanks landed in in los
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angeles airport
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now at that point at the point of
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destabilization
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also the process could be reversed again
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easily than this
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no cia involvement at this point you
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know what it takes here
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restriction of some liberties for small
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groups which are self-declared enemies
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of the society
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as simple as that oh no the median
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liberals will tell you this is against
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the american constitution
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how can we
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uh by force deny the civil rights to
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criminals for example
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it's not good okay so we allow them to
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okay if you allow the criminals to have
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civil rights go on and
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bring the country to the crisis this is
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a bloodless way to do
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curb the rights i mean not to put them
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in prison no no i'm not talking about
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putting all the gays from san francisco
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in the concentration camp
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do not allow them to take
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political force do not elect them to the
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seats of power whether it is
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municipality level
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state level or federal level it has to
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be
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bitten in the heads of american voters
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that the person like that in the city of
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power is an
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enemy do not be afraid of this word it
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is an animal if he is not an enemy here
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he will be here
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later on he will be shot of course
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but at this point he is an enemy
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okay you are doing great service by
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denying him a right
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to capitalize on his own crazy ideas and
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become
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a powerful man a man who uses
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the seat of power restriction of certain
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freedoms and permissiveness at that
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point
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would prevent sliding into crisis and
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probably will return the process of
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destabilization
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to curb unlimited power monopolistic
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power of trade unions
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here at that point would save economy
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from collapsing
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to introduce a law to stop
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private companies of raping public
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opinions
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mind income in the in the direction of
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consumerism
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no company must have a right
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to force you into buying more unless you
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want it
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there must be a law you want to
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advertise your your car
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okay but not a single mentioning of
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buying it now and saving money
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it must be against the law to force
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people to consume more
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self-restraint previously before this
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process started
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the self-restraint was the business of
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church religion because our preachers
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the fathers of church would tell us
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material values are good but it's not
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the prime
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function of human being because you have
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to live with
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something obviously the design for our
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life
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is not to consume more deodorant
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there must be something greater if such
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a complicated
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instrument this human body was created
|
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obviously there must be some higher
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purpose for that
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and it's very easy to avoid
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destabilization by denying
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the greedy companies one little freedom
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one little liberty forcing you into
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turning yourself
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into processors of unwanted products and
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goods
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they turn you into machines
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|
like a the worm who there's inlet and
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|
outlet so
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and how long an average appliance lasts
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these days
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less than a year why
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is workmanship we want you to buy more
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okay this stabilization process could be
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easily overcome
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if as i say the society
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by its own will or after persuasion by
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the leaders
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will come to the idea of self-restraint
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it's so hard we want to consume more but
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you have to
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unless you will come to this stage when
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as we say in russia if sahara desert
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|
ever becomes a communist state
|
|
there will be shortage of sand
|
|
so you have to curb your
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[Laughter]
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you have to you have to curb your
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|
expectations at this point
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before it's too late but no we don't
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|
want to do it
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|
demoralization process again it's the
|
|
easiest thing to reverse
|
|
first of all by restricting import of
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propaganda
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|
the easiest thing to do
|
|
unlimited unrestrained import
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|
of soviet literature soviet journalists
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|
uh giving soviet propaganda and
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|
ideological agitators equal time on
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american tv network
|
|
it has to be stopped and it's easy
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|
they won't they won't be offended minded
|
|
as a matter of fact they will respect
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america
|
|
more but then my former colleague
|
|
vladimir posner appears on nightline
|
|
and ted coffee will ask him well
|
|
vladimir what do you think about this
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|
and
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|
what can he think he is an instrument of
|
|
propaganda he thinks what what
|
|
what comrade andropov tells him to think
|
|
he is just a nice articulate mouthpiece
|
|
of the soviet uh
|
|
uh subversion system and telco makes you
|
|
believe
|
|
that my friend vladimir posner thinks
|
|
[Laughter]
|
|
the process of demoralization may not
|
|
have started at
|
|
all if at that point
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|
the country which is a recipient of
|
|
subversion actively
|
|
not violently but actively prevents
|
|
importation of foreign ideology
|
|
i don't want america to follow the
|
|
pattern of ancient japan
|
|
you don't have to shoot every foreigner
|
|
when it approaches
|
|
the sacred borders of the united states
|
|
but when he
|
|
offers you a junk in the disguise of
|
|
very shiny something
|
|
you have to tell him no we have our own
|
|
junk
|
|
if at that point the society is strong
|
|
brave and conscientious enough
|
|
to stop importation of ideas which are
|
|
foreign
|
|
then the whole chain of events could be
|
|
prevented
|
|
recently i've been to philippines and i
|
|
was shocked
|
|
how in big cities like manila children
|
|
listen to deafening music
|
|
a melodious nation with long traditions
|
|
of
|
|
good nice ethnic music introduced by
|
|
spanish
|
|
long time ago maybe two centuries three
|
|
centuries ago i don't remember
|
|
all of a sudden listen to musical
|
|
garbage
|
|
blasting their radios at full blast at
|
|
the
|
|
full volume why in
|
|
india i spent many years watching the
|
|
reactions of
|
|
indians walking out of movie theaters
|
|
after seeing hollywood production
|
|
they they couldn't figure out why
|
|
americans are so wasteful they smash
|
|
their cars
|
|
their shiny cars every five minutes how
|
|
come they shoot each other for half
|
|
million dollars
|
|
is it true that they are so sex sex
|
|
i mean obsessed with sex can you imagine
|
|
showing a movie where each five minutes
|
|
there is a
|
|
copulation on the screen to a country
|
|
like india with long traditions
|
|
tradition of of respect to this private
|
|
matters
|
|
or to pakistan
|
|
and united states expect these people to
|
|
respect you
|
|
no way oh yes they will see the movie
|
|
they'll pay five rupees to see that
|
|
garbage
|
|
but they walk out and will tell their
|
|
kids don't
|
|
respect americans don't be like
|
|
americans
|
|
see so the process of demoralization
|
|
could be stopped right here
|
|
both as an expert and as an import
|
|
and that takes one step
|
|
one very important thing to do you don't
|
|
have to expel
|
|
all the kgb agents from washington dc
|
|
the most difficult and at the same time
|
|
the simplest answer
|
|
to the subversion is to start it here
|
|
and even before
|
|
by bringing back the society to
|
|
religion something that you cannot touch
|
|
and eat and put on yourself but
|
|
something that
|
|
rules society and makes it move and
|
|
preserve it
|
|
a soviet scientist who has nothing to do
|
|
with religion
|
|
he is a computer scientist did a very
|
|
intensive research
|
|
on the history of socialist countries
|
|
he called socialist or communist any
|
|
country with the centralized
|
|
economy and the pyramidal style of power
|
|
structure
|
|
and he discovered actually he didn't
|
|
discover it he just
|
|
brought to attention of his readers that
|
|
civilizations like mohan jodaro
|
|
in the river hindus area
|
|
like egypt like maya incas
|
|
like the below but the bologna culture
|
|
collapsed and disappeared from the
|
|
surface of earth the moment they lost
|
|
religion
|
|
as simple as that they disintegrated
|
|
nobody remembers
|
|
about them anymore well distantly
|
|
so the ideas
|
|
are moving society and keeping mankind
|
|
as a society of human beings intelligent
|
|
moral agents of god
|
|
the facts the truth the exact knowledge
|
|
may not all the sophisticated technology
|
|
and computers will not prevent society
|
|
from
|
|
disintegrating and eventually dying out
|
|
have you ever met a person who would
|
|
sacrifice his
|
|
life freedom for the truth like that
|
|
this is truth i never met the person who
|
|
said this is truth and i'm ready to
|
|
shoot me
|
|
to defend the truth right
|
|
but millions sacrifice their life
|
|
freedom
|
|
comfort everything
|
|
for things like god
|
|
like jesus christ it's an honor
|
|
some markers in in the soviet
|
|
concentration camp died
|
|
and they died in peace unlike those who
|
|
shouted longleaf stalin
|
|
knowing perfectly well that you may not
|
|
live long
|
|
something which is
|
|
something which is not material
|
|
moves society and helps it to survive
|
|
and the other way around the moment we
|
|
turn into two by two is four
|
|
and make it a guiding principle of our
|
|
life our existence
|
|
we die even though this is true
|
|
and this we cannot prove we only can
|
|
feel
|
|
and have faith in it so the answer to
|
|
ideological subversion
|
|
strangely enough is very simple you
|
|
don't have to shoot people you don't
|
|
have to aim missiles and
|
|
pershings and cruise missiles at
|
|
andropovs headquarters
|
|
you simply have to have faith and
|
|
prevent subversion
|
|
in other words not to be a victim of
|
|
subversion
|
|
don't try to be a person who in judo
|
|
is trying to smash your enemy and being
|
|
caught by your hand
|
|
don't strike like that strike with power
|
|
you have spirit and moral superiority
|
|
if you don't have the power it's high
|
|
time to develop it
|
|
and that's the only answer
|
|
that's it thank you
|
|
you
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