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#### <img src="https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/12958815?v=4" width="50">[milahu](https://github.com/milahu) commented at [2024-01-16 09:20](https://github.com/milahu/alchi/issues/32#issuecomment-1893351357):
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holodomor = death by hunger, demonstration of power, fuck cops, fuck
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industry, can i see your license, loicense, ...
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2024-01-12
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<https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-01-12-organic-amish-farm-raided-farmer-resisted-govt-overreach.html>
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> A man [growing food for informed
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> customers](https://organicfarming.news/), without participating in the
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> industrial meat/milk complex
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> Miller has used his sovereign citizen defense to push back against
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> federal overreach in forcing him to comply with food safety rules as
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> **he sells a range of food including raw milk, grass-fed cheese and
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> beef, fresh produce and organic eggs to more than 4000 buyers. For his
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> farming operations, he does not use petroleum products, chemical
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> fertilizers, electricity or vaccines.**
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## Organic Amish farm raided, food seized after farmer pushed back against Fed overreach
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Tags: [agriculture](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/agriculture), [big
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government](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/big-government),
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[dairy](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/dairy),
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[DOA](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/doa),
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[farm](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/farm),
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[fascism](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/fascism), [food
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freedom](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-freedom), [food
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police](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-police), [food
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supply](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/food-supply),
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[freedom](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/freedom), [government
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overreach](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/government-overreach),
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[harvest](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/harvest),
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[insanity](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/insanity),
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[intolerance](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/intolerance),
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[Liberty](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/liberty-tag),
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[obey](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/obey), [organic
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farming](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/organic-farming),
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[outrage](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/outrage), [police
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state](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/police-state-tag),
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[raid](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/raid),
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[Resist](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/resist), [sovereign
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defense](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/sovereign-defense),
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[Tyranny](https://www.naturalnews.com/tag/tyranny)
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An Amish farmer who sells a range of organic food from his Pennsylvania
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farm was recently raided by the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture.
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The department has been going after the farmer, Amos Miller, because he
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has failed to comply with [federal farming
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regulations](https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/big-govt-raids-small-amish-farmer-who-refuses-participate-industrial-meatmilk-complex).
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Last Thursday, the Pennsylvania State Police could be seen serving a
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search warrant at the all-natural farm, which is situated in the village
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of Bird-in-Hand. A state police spokesperson said they were there to
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help with scene security and that the search was part of a DOA
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investigation.
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**Dozens of items were seized as part of the search, including
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everything from ice cream and chocolate milk to eggnog and sour cream.**
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Authorities claim that they were investigating whether Miller's farm was
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the source of a few cases of foodborne illness in the area and that
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Miller “never licensed his retail operation.” The farmer has been
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involved in litigation with the government about the safety and
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inspection of his food for several years.
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Miller does not sell his products to the public in grocery stores,
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instead [catering to private
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clients](https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/05/police-raid-amos-miller-thomas-massie-promote-rollback-regulation/)
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who wish to avoid the dangers associated with corporate farming
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practices.
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His attorney, Robert Barnes, said: “Today, the Department of Agriculture
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of the State of Pennsylvania suddenly came, without notice, raided Amos’
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farm, and detained everything Amos had in the farm’s freezer. They did
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so in a lawless manner, without appropriate authority, in violation of
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their own rules and regulations, despite never objecting to the prior
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resolutions reached with the federal government, and despite a complete
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failure by the state to even reach out to Amos’ known counsel.”
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Outlining the ways in which the raid was illegal, Barnes said that
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[authorities were
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required](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/)
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to provide advance notice, show their credentials, and conduct their
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inspections within reasonable time frames. He blamed “false statements
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in an affidavit by a high-ranking state official in an agency with a
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known grievance against independent farmers like Amos” for being the
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source of the search warrant and complained that after authorities
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failed to find proof of wrongdoing, they “illegally ordered detained
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every item of food in one of Amos Miller’s coolers, including buffalo
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meat not even subject to federal regulation.”
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He added that Miller will continue to do everything possible to provide
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food to his patrons legally.
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Miller has used his sovereign citizen defense to push back against
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federal overreach in forcing him to comply with food safety rules as he
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sells a range of food including raw milk, grass-fed cheese and beef,
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fresh produce and organic eggs to more than 4000 buyers. For his farming
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operations, he does not use petroleum products, chemical fertilizers,
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electricity or vaccines.
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Government should be focused on more pressing matters
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Donald Trump Jr. expressed outrage over the raid on X, writing: "Imagine
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what law enforcement could accomplish if they went after oh I don't
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know, say, members of elite pedophile rings rather than farmers selling
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to their neighbors???"
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Upon hearing about the story, Representative Thomas Massey (R-Kentucky)
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commented: "Looks like Amos Miller's farm is being raided. With all of
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the problems in society today, this is what the government wants to
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focus on?"
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He added: "A man [growing food for informed
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customers](https://organicfarming.news/), without participating in the
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industrial meat/milk complex? It's shameful that it's come to this.”
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Massie is the co-author of the PRIME Act bill, which seeks to protect
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smaller farmers and ranchers from federal overregulation.
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Sources for this article include:
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[ZeroHedge.com](https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/big-govt-raids-small-amish-farmer-who-refuses-participate-industrial-meatmilk-complex)
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[DailyCaller.com](https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/05/police-raid-amos-miller-thomas-massie-promote-rollback-regulation/)
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[FoodSafetyNews.com](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/)
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<https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/190wodv/comment/kgsu6ix/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3>
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IAmVladimirPutinAMA
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Hi, I'm local and familiar with this situation.
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There are thousands of farms around here. Most are smaller than this
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one. Most are Amish. This is the only one that keeps getting food
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inspectors up their ass.
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This isn't a case of "regulators vs the little guy" or "regulators vs
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Amish", as evidenced by the thousands of local farms that aren't getting
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the same kind of attention. It's a case of "regulators vs the guy whose
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products keep putting children in the hospital".
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jt7855
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Why do people keep purchasing his products?
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This issue has been largely about choice. Do you sell raw milk?
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Unpasteurized milk? How does the government deal with you?
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IAmVladimirPutinAMA
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> Why do people keep purchasing his products?
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They don't, by and large. He's providing a niche product to a niche
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market. He has a few thousand customers, out of 330 million Americans.
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> Do you sell raw milk? Unpasteurized milk? How does the government deal
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> with you?
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I am not personally directly involved in the dairy industry.
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The "personal choice" thing is a legitimate question-- should people be
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able to purchase products that may harm them? Should all drugs be
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legalized? etc
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This guy's case is often presented as "government vs the little Amish
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guy". If that were truly the case, they'd be starting with the thousands
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of farms that are much littler and much Amisher.
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jt7855
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Milk isn’t a drug and you aren’t in any danger of the government raising
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your business
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IAmVladimirPutinAMA
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> Milk isn’t a drug
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Thought you were all about "personal choice". So much for that.
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> you aren’t in any danger of the government raising your business
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Yeah, that's where you're wrong. My industry's regulations make the food
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industry look easy. And we meet those regulations just fine, and we get
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regularly audited which is a bit of a hassle but they never find issues,
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and we make plenty of profit, and you almost certainly have a product in
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your home that was made in my workplace.
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jt7855
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You get plenty of profit. That is good. I guess you need the government
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to tell you how to run your industry. Without that stern leadership you
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might have more competition and I might not have your product in my
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home.
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Accomplished-Quiet78
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The problem is that they broke multiple laws that are in place to stop
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this from happening. Not only do they not even have a license to sell in
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Pennsylvania, but they are also selling their product across state
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borders, which is a federal crime since 1986.
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jt7855
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Like I said, politicians write laws that turn people into criminals.
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Write enough and on any given day you are that criminal.
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Batbuckleyourpants
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2015\. They caused an outbreak of listeria, proven by genetic testing on
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the germs. Two people having drunk their milk developed listeriosis ,
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one of them died.
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They were ordered by a court to stop selling self produced food because
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people kept getting poisoned, because these are filthy filthy people,
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whose filthy way killed someone.
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In 2022 they agreed to stop selling self produced products.
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2023\. What do you know, they are still selling tainted food, and this
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time caused a multi state outbreak of E.Coli, hospitalizing several
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children who tried their eggnog.
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Finally in 2024 authorities are making a move to stop these people. They
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violated a plea agreement that was keeping them out of jail.
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These people are dangerous. They have already killed people and need to
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go to jail.
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[Authorities search Lancaster farm after reports that tainted eggnog
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sickened
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children](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/01/authorities-search-lancaster-farm-after-reports-that-tainted-eggnog-sickened-children.html)
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<https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/190wodv/comment/kgtbu03/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3>
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StarMNF
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Raw milk is a product that has pros and cons. In addition to the
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nutrients, many people believe the bacteria is helpful in building
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immune systems.
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Bacteria is a tricky thing because to be healthy, you need the right
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balance of bacteria in your body, not to eliminate it entirely. That’s
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why pro-biotics are sold.
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People who grew up in overly sterile environments get a lot of allergies
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when they grow older. There’s even a theory that some autoimmune
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diseases are caused by over sterilization.
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That’s why “bacteria = gross” is an over-simplification. Humans have
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co-evolved with bacteria to have a symbiotic relationship with each
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other.
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Ask yourself how many people do you know who died or got seriously sick
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from drinking Raw Milk? Is it possible? Certainly. But what’s the
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statistical probability?
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Once upon a time, Odwalla sold unpasteurized juices. They were good and
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nutritious for you. Then one day, a kid died of E. coli poisoning. So
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they shut that whole industry down, and now Odwalla sells only
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pasteurized juices. Real Odwalla is gone from the market.
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The kid dying from E. coli was a one-out-of-a-million scenario. Maybe
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even one-out-of-a-hundred-million. Yes, it was inevitable that someone
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would eventually die because if a product becomes popular enough, that
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will eventually happen.
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But to prevent that, every bottle sold must have fewer nutrients. People
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rarely realize that life is about tradeoffs.
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Consumers should be allowed to decide for themselves if the benefits
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outweigh the risks, when serious risks are low probability. Rather than
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outright banning such products, government can slap a big fat warning
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label about the risks like they do with cigarettes. Just don’t go
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overboard like California does with the cancer labels, or nobody will
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take it seriously.
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IAmSeabiscuit61
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I agree with you; let consumers choose. I remember when we used to be
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able to buy unpasteurized apple cider (they called it cider, as opposed
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to the clear, filtered, juice) from local apple farmer's roadside
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markets. It tasted so much better than the pasteurized juice, and I
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never knew anyone to become ill from drinking it. It was non-alcoholic,
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but if you left it in the refrigerator long enough, it would get a
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little bit of a "kick" to it, though we usually drank it all before that
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<https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/190wodv/comment/kgsccko/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3>
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Cerus98
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Not all bacteria is bad and not all raw milk contains the bad stuff.
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[Pennsylvania ag officials search Miller Organic Farm for the source of
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Shiga-toxins. By Dan Flynn on January 6,
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2024](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2024/01/pennsylvania-ag-officials-search-miller-organic-farm-for-the-source-of-shiga-toxins/)
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[Authorities search Lancaster farm after reports that tainted eggnog
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sickened children. Jan. 06,
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2024](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/01/authorities-search-lancaster-farm-after-reports-that-tainted-eggnog-sickened-children.html)
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-08-16.36.issue.open.md" title="feedback ist wichtig für bessere qualität auch für feedback gilt das prinzip release early and release often ... also egal wie "trivial", feedback ist immer wertvoll und irgendwo muss man anfa ">feedback beispiel</a></b><br>#36 opened on 2022-08-16 11:38 by milahu 💬 1</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-17.34.issue.open.md" title="griechische tragödie tragödie = trag-odos = bocks-gesang (wer ist "der bock"? typ 1?) menschen kämpfen gegen ihre eigene natur menschen kämpfen gegen einen übermächtigen feind (david gegen gol ">tragische helden kämpfen auf verlorenem posten</a></b><br>#34 opened on 2022-07-17 18:05 by milahu</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-17.33.issue.open.md" title="würden demos was bringen, dann wären sie verboten (demos sind nur wohlfühlblasen, echokammern, kollektiv-narzissmus) (für mich nur interessant weil überall gibts 1% gute leute) würde passiver w ">würden demos was bringen, dann wären sie verboten</a></b><br>#33 opened on 2022-07-17 17:35 by milahu</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md" title="wer den weltuntergang NICHT sieht, der liest die falschen nachrichten (blaue pillen) welche news lese ich? also, wem glaube ich? iceagefarmer iceagefarmer @ telegram archiv: https://milahu.github. ">news of collapse</a></b><br>#32 opened on 2022-07-17 16:18 by milahu 💬 90</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-17.32.issue.open.md" title="wer den weltuntergang NICHT sieht, der liest die falschen nachrichten (blaue pillen) welche news lese ich? also, wem glaube ich? iceagefarmer iceagefarmer @ telegram archiv: https://milahu.github. ">news of collapse</a></b><br>#32 opened on 2022-07-17 16:18 by milahu 💬 91</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-17.31.issue.open.md" title="partnertausch ... kann man leicht falsch verstehen als "sexpartner tauschen", aber das mein ich nicht stell dir vor, du hast ne family mit 4 menschen: sohn mutter tochter vater. aus den 4 menschen ">partnertausch in vierer-gruppen</a></b><br>#31 opened on 2022-07-17 14:23 by milahu</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-12.30.issue.open.md" title="- M4? M2? ukvali - M4? M2? cr7z - Cr7z - Krankes Biz - M2? chris ares - chris ares - defend europe - Chris Ares – Fremdbestimmt - M1 samy deluxe - Samy Deluxe - Weck ">wer ist wer? bekannte menschen und deren persönlichkeitstyp</a></b><br>#30 opened on 2022-07-12 12:44 by milahu 💬 5</td></tr>
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<tr><td><b><a href="md/2022-07-11.28.issue.open.md" title="meine arbeit ist grundlagenforschung also ich erforsche die grundlagen für beziehungen zwischen menschen das problem ist: für diese grundlagen gibt es keine grundlagen der einzige "grund" den ich ">grundlagenforschung hat keine grundlagen</a></b><br>#28 opened on 2022-07-11 19:46 by milahu 💬 2</td></tr>
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